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  1. Very much enjoyed Michael Wood’s programme and your history of Dagworth.
    I have nothing sound or academic to add but have long been aware of a former ‘chapel’ at Dagworth. As I understand it, as one approaches Dagworth from Old Newton the field on the left just prior to the railway line has always been referred to as ‘Chapel field’.
    My grandfather (born @1874) apparently referred to ‘Dagga Docks’ where he had heard that it was once navigable.

    • Jeremy says:

      Hi Heather,

      Thanks for your comments, this sort of information is really helpful. And thank you for your kind words: I think Michael Wood and his team have done a wonderful job of telling stories from history through the voices of local people, and they were delightful visitors to our little hamlet when they came to film last year.

      The location of the chapel is currently a mystery, and clues like this from local knowledge may yet help us find it. It’s mentioned in Domesday, and a team of archaeologists led by Mel Birch did a dig at Dagworth about three years ago, searching for it. They dug near the river where the OS map shows the site of the chapel, and found quite a lot of evidence of earlier occupation, but no sign of the chapel.

      What you say about Chapel Field is consistent with two other sources I’ve come across: the 1841 Tithe Map shows three fields in the location you describe: Upper Chapel Hill, Lower Chapel Hill and Chapel Lay. Also, local history author Pip Wright published a lovely book last summer which contains the memoirs of Alfred Burrows, who farmed Dagworth from 1929-1948, and he says that he could see the outline of the chapel in the field near the old oak tree halfway down the Chase. So my guess is that you’re right and the chapel was somewhere in that field…

      Your story about your grandfather is really helpful as well because the earliest source I had for the name “Dagga Docks” was also Alf Burrows in the 1930s, so your grandfather pushes that back into the C19th. May I ask your grandfather’s name? And do you know whether he lived or worked in Dagworth at all, or whether it was just a place he knew?

      Thank you again so much for getting in touch, please do add any other thoughts or ideas if they occur to you. And are you the same Heather who draws? I remember lovely pictures of the church and the school that were printed as cards – probably back in the 1980s?

      Best wishes, Jeremy

  2. Dirk says:

    Dear Jeremy,
    I hope my english is good enough to question a detail I found. On one of your sites I found the word “bekelyng”.
    (http://dagworth.steventon-barnes.com/Patey_History.htm)

    I do some history work on the village Becklingen near Celle/Hannover in Germany. In the middle ages (about 1200 to 1350) Becklingen was named “Bekelyng” and “Bekelynge”.
    Could you (or anyone else) please explain what bekelyng in the context of Dagworth means ? Is it just a the name for the manor or an old family name oder where does the word come from ? Could there be any connection to Becklingen oder Germany (Hannover) ?

    Thanks a lot,
    Dirk from Germany

    • Jeremy says:

      Hi Dirk,

      Lovely to hear from you: what an interesting question!

      The document you mention is not one that I have checked personally, and the referencing in Major Patey’s “History of Dagworth” is imprecise. This said, I’m pretty sure that the reference is to a document held by Norfolk Record Office, reference CHC 100917. Search their catalogue at:

      http://nrocat.norfolk.gov.uk/DServe/public/searches/nroadvanced.htm

      It looks from Patey’s quote that in 1540 there was a manor called Bekelyng in Snape, about 40Km from Dagworth, and that both manors were held by the Duke of Suffolk (along with much of the land across Suffolk), and that for some reason the accounts of these manors were being reported together.

      I’m afraid that’s the limit of my knowledge, as a quick search turns up nothing else and I can’t find Bekelyng on current maps, Domesday or the other usual archive sources. But next time I’m at the record office I will look out the original document and see if it offers any more clues.

      Good luck with your research!

      Best wishes, Jeremy

      • Dirk says:

        I found the old english word “Bekeling” meaning water-meadow.
        The english (sur)name Blickling was originally believed to derive from the Old English word ‘ Bekeling’ . May be Bekelyng as well.
        I think there is no consensus between the english “Bekelyng” and the german village(s) Becklingen formerly named “Bekelyng”. But the old english “Bekeling” meaning water-meadow is similar to the low-german origin of “Beke” meaning creek, small water (-ing=small).

        Maybe the same germanic/saxon roots ;-)

        Thanks a lot for your comment and effort.
        Best regards,
        Dirk

        • Jeremy says:

          Thanks Dirk, now I’ve learned something! So yes, there are plenty of place names here with Anglo-Saxon roots, so any similarity is probably coincidental. Along which lines, though of no relevance to you, the last of the male de Dagworths (died 1401) moved to Blickling in Norfolk, where he built a Hall and was buried in the church. Blickling later became famous as the home of the Boleyn family, and their house is now owned by the National Trust and open to the public. Perhaps a sufficient name association to merit a visit some time? Best wishes again with your research, Jeremy

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